My World Is Crumbling Again My Friends Without You Here My Joy Lyrics

Information technology's pretty common in music circles to run across people who have spent literally decades trying to identify an obscure vocal on an old mixtape. They've had no luck Googling lyrics or playing the song into Soundhound, Shazam, or friends' ears. There are entire communities—on websites like Wat Zat Song?, Midomi, and Reddit—devoted to crowdsourcing the solutions.

Many times, without what felt like much work, I've been able to successfully ID such songs for strangers. Non considering I'm Brainypants McMusicface; to the opposite. In every instance these have been songs and artists I'd never heard (or even heard of) earlier.

But the recordings contained the necessary clues and context, to which I applied some deductive reasoning and research done on freely-bachelor websites. Here's how I've gone about it, in example crowdsourcing isn't working for yous.

One case: Slicing Up Eyeballs posted this to both Facebook and Twitter.

Tin can y'all ID this funky mail service-punk song taped off WNYU in the '80s?

A Slicing Up Eyeballs reader sent the states the post-obit note:

"I write from Germany so sorry if i put words incorrect. A Friend of mine was in America in the 80s and he listened to WNYU – FM. He heard a Song in that location just did not hear the Proper noun and Creative person. So i have the Link hither where you tin can listen to. If you don`t know it, maybe you lot tin help us with the Lyrics. We went them up and downwardly with no Upshot. Peculiarly subsequently the kickoff words "Oh well oh welcome ….. This might be the Refrain of the Song because he repeats it often in this Song. I would exist very glad to become an respond from you lot considering this Song is searched for more than 33 Years."

The post was accompanied past the song's audio on Soundcloud (and had already been an open case on Wat Zat Song? for over 5 months).

i. Examine the audio and lyrics for clues, and search for keywords on Discogs.

Discogs is a website database detailing musical artists' discographies and, among other features (like its marketplace and the ability to catalog your unabridged music drove), information technology's a powerful search engine. The Advanced Search, which is costless to use without creating an account, allows yous to look just inside Rail (song) Title.

Discogs Advanced Search

Since this song didn't have a traditional chorus (where the title would commonly repeat), I started making out the lyrics from the top.

Oh well, oh welcome [turncoat?] Sam
He said he was a killer man
He doesn't intendance nigh your [dearest / life]

So something about napalm? Sounds a bit agit-prop. That first line repeats at the beginning of each verse, giving at least part of it the potential to appear in the title. A Runway Championship search for "oh well oh welcome" yielded 44 results which independent some combination of those keywords in their song titles (i.e. "oh", "well" and "welcome" might appear in three different vocal titles on a given album, non necessarily all in the same vocal title).

ii. Filter the search results to items released in a specific decade, geographic region, or genre.

Discogs Search Results

The OP said the tape was from the '80s and the recording screams '80s too. Choosing Decade>1980 from the bill of fare down the left side of the search window narrows it downwards from 44 to seven.

Discogs Filtered Results

Every bit for genre, would Discogs accept this filed under punk, funk, other? Those distinctions are subjective, which is why I opted not to use their filters for this pace and instead eliminated results that obviously weren't the genre I was looking for (i.e. skip over the items with "gospel" and "soul" in the titles, as well every bit the "Hot Hits" compilation. If this song had ever been a hot hit, someone would accept identified it by at present). That left me with merely one event to investigate:Maxi Trip the light fantastic toe Pool Vol. 2 – Musikladen Eurotops.

NB: Discogs, due to the way its records are structured, returned three dissimilar iterations of this same album in the search results: ane being the 'main page' for that release/anthology and the other 2 detailing the separate formats of the release, CD and LP. All three are interchangeable for my purposes, so no need to await at each.

three. Use streaming music resources to follow leads.

Discogs Master Release Page

Given that my keywords were spread across 2 track titles on this compilation—"Oh Well" (by an artist of the same name), and another titled "Welcome, Machine Gun"—and that my vocal hardly seemed similar lodge fodder, this was probably a dead end but I was already here and decided to run across information technology through. The old championship was a amend lucifer to my lyric than the latter then I followed the hyperlink to the Discogs page showing Oh Well's discography. The song "Oh Well", since it was released equally a unmarried, had its own subpage with an embedded YouTube video, a quick scan of which proved it wasn't the song I was after.

Discogs Single Release Page

"Car gun" didn't appear in the lyrics of my song, so it seemed casuistic to assume that the latter vocal had any relevance to my search. Back to the drawing lath.

four. Repeat steps 1-three every bit needed.

I didn't carp pursuing the words "oh well" any farther because, on their ain, they simply didn't feel distinctive or interesting enough to be a title for this song. Instead, I turned my sights to "turncoat Sam." Few writers would be able to resist making such a unique turn of phrase the hook on which to hang a song, so it had a improve chance of actualization in the title. But that search yielded only two results, which were speedily ruled out. Additional searches for "turncoat" and "welcome turncoat" were similarly fruitless.

Out of other options, I searched for "Sam". Filtering downwards to but the '80s still left nearly 2700 releases. Scanning the get-go folio of 50 results, I eliminated anything immediately recognizable (e.yard. T. Rex's "Telegram Sam"), the foreign language items, the ones plain in not-applicable genres like jazz, and ones in which Sam was inextricably paired with other words ("Play It Once more, Sam", etc.).

At the bottom of the page my eye was drawn to a dark, arty record cover that seemed to fit the vibe I was looking for—what looked like a monoprint of a confront that was disjointed, disfigured, with violence or chaos implied.

Discogs Sam Search

Information technology was for a single of a vocal called "Uncle Sam" by a group I'd never heard of, Rhythm of Life. Clicking through to that subpage showed that information technology was a UK release from 1981, classified as New Moving ridge. On this type of folio, Discogs displays suggestions of similar artists; while I wasn't intimately familiar with the ones listed here (Josef M, Cabaret Voltaire), I knew enough to recollect they were reasonably aligned with my target.

Discogs Uncle Sam Page

I searched YouTube for "Rhythm of Life Uncle Sam," which returned one result; later on a brief drum intro that was missing from the original post, there was my song. It wasn't "turncoat Sam" after all… it was "Oh well, oh welcome to Uncle Sam", with "to" and "Uncle" sung so shut together equally to sound like ane give-and-take.

[Editor's note: that video used to be embedded right here so that you could hear it, but has since been removed from YouTube and non replaced. In fact, Rhythm of Life'southward "Uncle Sam" appears not to be available on any legitimate streaming service—or for digital download—in the The states, and can only be found on a 2-CD Paul Haig compilation from Brussels-based Les Disques du Crépuscule label. And that fact, dear reader—that the web giveth and the web taketh away—is a perfect example of why I always view my personal music library as more than essential and comprehensive than any subscription-based streaming service can promise to exist.]

To be fair, intuition played a part in arriving at the solution, as did good luck; if my vocal had appeared on the 50th page of "Sam" results instead of the first, would I have constitute it? (Non to mention other factors in my favor: that the song had lyrics at all, was sung in my native linguistic communication, was from an era and genre of which I have a decent if not comprehensive cognition, etc.) Still, this method has helped me solve half a dozen other mystery songs that had been plaguing people for 25+ years, where collective "Well, it kind of sounds like [creative person proper noun here]" guesswork failed.

Here's i more than example off the top of my caput, using the same steps—identifying the sound clues, lyrical clues, and parameters for the search.

Example #ii

Sound clues: a song taped off an American alt radio station in 1988. The artist sounded American, slightly roots-rockish but with sonic shine, and a bit Paisley Underground.

Lyrical clues: a mention of Jerry Falwell bolstered my notion that it's American in origin. Focusing on the closest thing to a chorus, the just lyrics which echo are variations of:

Whatever name you lot get past, she goes past now too
What else would she do?
She'due south got her final resorts in the mail
To box three five comma oh oh oh

The search: the last line was the all-time bet. The number 35,000 spoken in that way, as its private components, was so unusual that information technology took a while to realize that's what I was hearing, as opposed to the oh-oh-ohs simply being song punctuations. Being catchy and unique, it was the about obvious hook. And radio being a contemporary medium, the song was probably either released in '87 or '88; songs generally don't get airplay years after their release unless they've achieved some condition. Searching Discogs in two fields—Track Title for "35,000", and Year for 1987—took me straight to it: "35,000" past Insiders, from an album called Ghost On the Beach.

Discogs Insiders Search

I'm non surprised it eluded someone for decades; it was a deep anthology cutting, not a single, and it's not on YouTube, Spotify, iTunes or Amazon. I had to track information technology downward on (at present-defunct) Grooveshark in order to verify its identity.

Example #3, without audio

Again, Slicing Up Eyeballs posted a reader's plea on Facebook.

Name THAT TUNE: Scott's having trouble tracking down a song he used to have on a mixtape. Does this ring a bong for anyone?

"I have what seems to be the common 'I had a mix tape years ago, what the hell was that vocal' problem. '93 in college a buddy made me a killer mix record. I lost the track listing after many moves, but have managed to hunt downward almost all of the songs except one. Hither'south what I remember:

"The song begins with a clip of a British man calling bingo. He mentions one number and then says 'bluish? 22. We have a bingo- in TWO places.' Then it cuts into the song. That is all I recall. I can tell you it was '93 or prior. Whatever help from the good folks who follow you would be fantastic."

Audio clues: none. This time there's neither a recorded snippet nor whatsoever indication in the OP'south wording virtually what type of music it is.

Lyrical clues: but the spoken 'bingo' intro. At this point, I don't fifty-fifty know whether the rest of the song has lyrics or is purely instrumental.

The search: I have 2 facts—the bingo intro and a release engagement no afterward than 1993—and one assumption: that the artist is British, since in that location'due south no obvious reason for a non-Great britain artist to source a few seconds of audio from a British bingo hall. Of course there'south no guarantee that the song's title has bingo in information technology, but that's the only practical starting point.

Searching Track Title for "bingo" yielded 2,848 results. I filtered those down to items released in the Britain (since odds are good that an artist's work would be released outset and foremost in their native country), which narrowed the results to 562. I practical a 2d filter in guild to run across only items released in the 1990s, which reduced the results to 143. Then I clicked on the View options at the upper-correct of the window to see the results every bit Text With Covers, which enabled me to run into the release year for each item.

discogs_bingo_search_results

Ignoring anything released past 1993, I worked my way down the first page of 50 results, clicking through to each item's detailed release folio and looking upwardly songs on YouTube (if they weren't already embedded in the Discogs page). Eventually I arrived at the album Reach by Snuff, released in 1992.

discogs_snuff_reach

Since the release page featured a YouTube video of the full album and "Bingo" was track nine of twelve, I scrubbed near 3/4 of the way into information technology, pausing at the gaps between songs since I was interested simply in the kickoff of any given track, and at the 21:32 mark is where I plant my British bingo player. All told, this process took me less than 30 minutes.

I thought I was done, but something nagged at me: YouTube too has a standalone video of but the song "Bingo", and that spoken word prune doesn't appear in it at all, either at the beginning or the terminate. Further, the vocal in that video isn't the one following the bingo hall clip in the full-anthology video!

After adding up the track times seen on the Discogs folio, I realized that 21:32 into the anthology puts you at the end of "Bingo," non the beginning of it. Therefore, if the OP is seeking the song that comes after the clip, it's really the next track on the album—"Ichola Buddha"—that's he's after (and, when making the mixtape, his friend may take mistaken the bingo hall clip for the intro to that song instead of what it really is: the tail stop of "Bingo").

Plain my method is dependent on certain factors—not to mention some luck and intuition—and won't piece of work in every instance, only I hope it'll be a useful tool to assist y'all get closer to solving your ain mystery song. If information technology does, I'd beloved to hear your stories virtually where and when yous originally came by a song, where the search took yous over time, and how you arrived at a solution.

(cassette photo by Laurent Hoffmann)

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Source: https://markfgriffin.com/2015/02/need-help-identifying-song/

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